Johnstown Never Believed Trump Would Help. They Still Love Him Anyway. - POLITICO Magazine


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nearly all people who voted for Trump would do it again. But as I compared this year’s answers to last year’s responses it seemed clear that the basis of people’s support had morphed. Johnstown voters do not intend to hold the president accountable for the nonnegotiable pledges he made to them. It’s not that the people who made Trump president have generously moved the goalposts for him. It’s that they have eliminated the goalposts altogether.

“We just don’t have the workforce,” said Liston, the city manager. “If they are employable, and have a skill set, basically they already moved out of the area.”
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9 days ago by trianta
When you're angry sometimes you just want someone to be angry with you.
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9 days ago by UltraNurd
"This reality ought to get the attention of anyone who thinks they will win in 2018 or 2020 by running against Trump’s record. His supporters here, it turns out, are energized by his bombast and his animus more than any actual accomplishments. For them, it’s evidently not what he’s doing so much as it is the people he’s fighting. Trump is simply and unceasingly angry on their behalf, battling the people who vex them the worst—“obstructionist” Democrats, uncooperative establishment Republicans, the media, Black Lives Matter protesters and NFL players (boy oh boy do they hate kneeling NFL players) whom they see as ungrateful, disrespectful millionaires."

cf "@mikesbadtweets Nov 8 i fucking love wondering "how are we gonna stop global warming" then reading about trump voters who think he does not play golf." https://twitter.com/mikesbadtweets/status/928283585051791361
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9 days ago by comradeocean
"Johnstown Never Believed Trump Would Help. They Still Love Him Anyway."
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Johnstown Never Believed Trump Would Help. They Still Love Him Anyway.
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Johnstown Never Believed Trump Would Help. They Still Love Him Anyway. - POLITICO Magazine
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12 days ago by jjlsetter
Favorite tweet:

am i having a stroke https://t.co/20nhyj34UU http://pic.twitter.com/tdlqWcehOl

— Casey Johnston (@caseyjohnston) November 9, 2017
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RT : am i having a stroke
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12 days ago by readywater
Polling continues to show that—in spite of unprecedented unpopularity—nearly all people who voted for Trump would do it again. But as I compared this year’s answers to last year’s responses it seemed clear that the basis of people’s support had morphed. Johnstown voters do not intend to hold the president accountable for the nonnegotiable pledges he made to them. It’s not that the people who made Trump president have generously moved the goalposts for him. It’s that they have eliminated the goalposts altogether.
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12 days ago by mvuijlst
RT : the best description i have for this piece is it is a story of people who are addicted to white supremacy
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12 days ago by kohlmannj
Well that was terrifying.
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12 days ago by trill
RT : After reading this, I really don't want their votes. I want to win without them.
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12 days ago by brundlefly
When I asked Del Signore about the past year here, he said he “didn’t see any change because we got a new president.” He nonetheless remains an ardent proponent. “He’s our answer.”

I asked Schilling what would happen if the next three years go the way the past one has.

“I’m not going to blame him,” Schilling said. “Absolutely not.”

Is there anything that could change her mind about Trump?

“Nope,” she said.
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12 days ago by ramitsethi
When I asked Del Signore about the past year here, he said he “didn’t see any change because we got a new president.” He nonetheless remains an ardent proponent. “He’s our answer.”

I asked Schilling what would happen if the next three years go the way the past one has.

“I’m not going to blame him,” Schilling said. “Absolutely not.”

Is there anything that could change her mind about Trump?

“Nope,” she said.
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12 days ago by Jibarosoy
Never forget that Trumpists don’t want him to accomplish anything except demonizing & belittling the majority of us.
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12 days ago by hillary
Professional wrestling.
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12 days ago by jgordon
Dear fucking god. This couple deserves every misfortune that befalls them.
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12 days ago by acdlite
We’ve all read our share of Trump voter stories, but man this one is among the best. And the ending. Man.
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12 days ago by KateSherrill
Even when given ample evidence that one is wrong, most will never admit to it even when the truth burns them.
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12 days ago by drunkengrass
After reading this, I really don't want their votes. I want to win without them.
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12 days ago by exlibris
This is the most batshit thing I've ever read
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12 days ago by xyzzyb
politico found nycguidovoice
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12 days ago by jannik.schaefer
This is heartbreaking and awful and incredibly depressing in about a dozen different ways:
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13 days ago by tomcoates
In a depressed former steel town, the president’s promises don’t matter as much as they once did. JOHNSTOWN, Pa.—Pam Schilling is the reason Donald Trump is the president. via Pocket
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13 days ago by Werderbach
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13 days ago by LibrariesVal
In a depressed former steel town, the president’s promises don’t matter as much as they once did.
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13 days ago by lendamico
“Everybody I talk to,” he said, “realizes it’s not Trump who’s dragging his feet. Trump’s probably the most diligent, hardest-working president we’ve ever had in our lifetimes. It’s not like he sleeps in till noon and goes golfing every weekend, like the last president did.”

I stopped him, informing him that, yes, Barack Obama liked to golf, but Trump in fact does golf a lot, too—more, in fact.

Del Signore was surprised to hear this.

“Does he?” he said.

“Yes,” I said.

He did not linger on this topic, smiling and changing the subject with a quip. “If I was married to his wife,” Del Signore said, “I don’t think I’d go anywhere.”

He added: “Some of these things are like that thing he said to Billy, Billy Bob, Billy Bud”—searching, unsuccessfully, for the name Billy Bush—“on the bus, that comment he made.” Del Signore shrugged. “He’s a human male. I’m glad he wasn’t saying, ‘Hey, I like little boys.’ You know? So he’s not perfect.”

“You know, we’re sort of a depressed area,” she said. “We’re just a little area, you know—but it’s a good area. Good people here. And I think he would, if he knew of a place that had a lot of problems, I think he would try to help. I don’t know what he could do, or would want to do, for Johnstown, you know?”

He said he was going to bring back the steel mills.

“You’re never going to get those steel mills back,” she said.

“But he said he was going to,” I said.

“Yeah, but how’s he going to bring them back?”

“I don’t know,” I said, “but it’s what he said, last year, and people voted for him because of it.”

“They always say they want to bring the steel mills back,” Frear said, “but they’re going to have to do a lot of work to bring the steel mills back.”

He hasn’t built the wall yet, either. “I don’t care about his wall,” said Frear, 76. “I mean, if he gets his wall—I don’t give a shit, you know? But he has a good idea: Keep ‘em out.”

He also hasn’t repealed Obamacare. “That’s Congress,” she said.

And the drug scourge here continues unabated. “And it’s not going to improve for a long time,” she said, “until people learn, which they won’t.”

“But I like him,” Frear reiterated. “Because he does what he says.”

So many people in so many other areas of the country watch with dismay and existential alarm Trump’s Twitter hijinks, his petty feuds, his penchant for butting into areas where the president has no explicit, policy-relevant role. All of that only animates his supporters here. For them, Trump is their megaphone. He is the scriptwriter. He is a singularly effective, intuitive creator of a limitless loop of grievance and discontent that keeps them in absolute lockstep.

More than anything, what seemed to upset the people I spoke with was the National Football League players who have knelt during the national anthem to protest police brutality and racial inequality.

“As far as I’m concerned,” Frear told me, “if I was the boss of these teams, I would tell ‘em, ‘You get your asses out there and you play, or you’re not here anymore.’ They’re paying their salaries, for God’s sake.”

“Shame on them,” Del Signore said over his alfredo. “These clowns are out there, making millions of dollars a year, and they’re using some stupid excuse that they want equality—so I’ll kneel against the flag and the national anthem?”

“You’re not a fan of equality?” I asked.

“For people who deserve it and earn it,” he said. “All my ancestors, Italian, 100-percent Italian, the Irish, Germans, Polish, whatever—they all came over here, settled in places like this, they worked hard and they earned the respect. They earned the success that they got. Some people don’t want to do that. They just want it handed to them.”

“Like NFL players?” I said.

“Well,” Del Signore responded, “I hate to say what the majority of them are …” He stopped himself short of what I thought he was about to say.

Schilling and her husband, however, did not restrain themselves.

“The thing that irritates me to no end is this NFL shit,” Schilling told me in her living room. “I’m about ready to go over the top with this shit. We do not watch no NFL now.” They’re Dallas Cowboys fans. “We banned ‘em. We don’t watch it.”

Schilling looked at her husband, Dave McCabe, who’s 67 and a retired high school basketball coach. She nodded at me. “Tell him,” she said to McCabe, “what you said the NFL is …”

McCabe looked momentarily wary. He laughed a little. “I don’t remember saying that,” he said unconvincingly.

Schilling was having none of it. “You’re the one that told me, liar,” she said.

She looked at me.

The NFL?

“Niggers for life,” Schilling said.

“For life,” McCabe added.

- am I honestly supposed to find it in myself to feel empathy for people like this?

right?! i'm so fucking tired of pieces like this. they're all just empty ass clickbait at this point. - london
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13 days ago by highsodium
In a depressed former steel town, the president’s promises don’t matter as much as they once did.
13 days ago by ajdecandis
RT : The last paragraph is all you need to read.
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13 days ago by michaelkozak
In a depressed former steel town, the president’s promises don’t matter as much as they once did. JOHNSTOWN, Pa.—Pam Schilling is the reason Donald Trump is the president.
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13 days ago by cronco
I mocked this story a little bit based on the headline but it’s actually excellent.
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13 days ago by fkbarrett
In a depressed former steel town, the president’s promises don’t matter as much as they once did. JOHNSTOWN, Pa.—Pam Schilling is the reason Donald Trump is the president. via Pocket
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13 days ago by drewcaldwell
Precarity and hardship makes people worse and makes them waaaaay more vulnerable to propaganda.
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13 days ago by girma
Thank God, someone finally had the idea of sending a reporter to talk to Trump supporters in a small town.
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13 days ago by AnnieLowrey
the best description i have for this piece is it is a story of people who are addicted to white supremacy
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13 days ago by realsquid
the best description i have for this piece is it is a story of people who are addicted to white supremacy
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13 days ago by DocDre
the best description i have for this piece is it is a story of people who are addicted to white supremacy
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13 days ago by tweetotaler
the best description i have for this piece is it is a story of people who are addicted to white supremacy
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13 days ago by zvi
Re: Trump and Economic insecurity....
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13 days ago by jakeathomas
RT : Most fascinating part of this is what these residents have to say about the NFL (h/t )
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13 days ago by jeffcarroll
Living in an alternate reality. These folks are too far gone.
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13 days ago by flyosity
Living in an alternate reality. These folks are too far gone.
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13 days ago by NeoNacho
In hard-luck Johnstown, Pennsylvania, they know Trump isn't keeping his promises. They. Just. Don't. Care.
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13 days ago by andriak