The New Copycats: How Facebook Squashes Competition From Startups - WSJ


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Tech startups live by the rule that speed is paramount. Houseparty, creator of a hot video app, has an extra reason for urgency. Facebook Inc., a dominant force in Silicon Valley, is stalking the company, part of the social network’s aggressive mimicking of smaller rivals. via Pocket
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Tiny Houseparty has a promising video-chat app—the social-media giant has noticed
Tech startups live by the rule that speed is paramount. Houseparty, creator of a hot video app, has an extra reason for urgency.
Facebook Inc., FB -0.88% a dominant force in Silicon Valley, is stalking the company, part of the social network’s aggressive mimicking of smaller rivals. Facebook is being aided by an internal “early bird” warning system that identifies potential threats, according to people familiar with the technology.
This fall, Facebook plans to launch an app similar to Houseparty, internally called Bonfire, say people familiar with the project. Both apps let groups of people hang out over live video on a smartphone.
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august 2017 by rgl7194
At an all-hands meeting last summer, Facebook Chief Executive Mark Zuckerberg told employees they shouldn’t let pride get in the way of serving users, another way of saying they shouldn’t be afraid to copy rivals, according to someone who was at the meeting. The message became an informal internal slogan: “Don’t be too proud to copy.”

The odds are already stacked against it. The average smartphone user has about 89 apps on a device but uses only seven or eight daily, according to Verto Analytics. Facebook, Apple and Google dominate, commanding about 60% of the time and 80% of the ad dollars spent on mobile, the market-research firm says.


Facebook uses an internal database to track rivals, including young startups performing unusually well, people familiar with the system say. The database stems from Facebook’s 2013 acquisition of a Tel Aviv-based startup, Onavo, which had built an app that secures users’ privacy by routing their traffic through private servers. The app gives Facebook an unusually detailed look at what users collectively do on their phones, these people say.

The tool shaped Facebook’s decision to buy WhatsApp and informed its live-video strategy, they say. Facebook used Onavo to build its early-bird tool that tips it off to promising services and that helped Facebook home in on Houseparty.
august 2017 by hakan
Facebook uses an internal database to track rivals, including young startups performing unusually well, people familiar with the system say. The database stems from Facebook’s 2013 acquisition of a Tel Aviv-based startup, Onavo, which had built an app that secures users’ privacy by routing their traffic through private servers. The app gives Facebook an unusually detailed look at what users collectively do on their phones, these people say.

The tool shaped Facebook’s decision to buy WhatsApp and informed its live-video strategy, they say. Facebook used Onavo to build its early-bird tool that tips it off to promising services and that helped Facebook home in on Houseparty.
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august 2017 by dsongman
Tech startups live by the rule that speed is paramount. Houseparty, creator of a hot video app, has an extra reason for urgency. Facebook Inc., a dominant force…
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august 2017 by svs
Tech startups live by the rule that speed is paramount. Houseparty, creator of a hot video app, has an extra reason for urgency. Facebook Inc., a dominant force in Silicon Valley, is stalking the company, part of the social network’s aggressive mimicking of smaller rivals. via Pocket
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august 2017 by tonyhue
Houseparty office in San Francisco this month. Photo: Jason Henry for The Wall Street Journal Tech startups live by the rule that speed is paramount.…
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august 2017 by mjays
"The New Copycats: How Facebook Squashes Competition From Startups"
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august 2017 by peterjblack
the real take from this article isn't that facebook is xeroxing companies, it's that they set up a fuckin spy vpn
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august 2017 by riking
Tech startups live by the rule that speed is paramount. Houseparty, creator of a hot video app, has an extra reason for urgency. Facebook Inc., a dominant force in Silicon Valley, is stalking the company, part of the social network’s aggressive mimicking of smaller rivals. via Pocket
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august 2017 by schmitz
What’s that thunderous noise? It’s Facebook chasing down every threat to its business via
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august 2017 by sriramv
Facebook uses an internal database to track rivals, including young startups performing unusually well, people familiar with the system say. The database stems from Facebook’s 2013 acquisition of a Tel Aviv-based startup, Onavo, which had built an a…
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august 2017 by loughlin
"It's free who cares" - Facebook uses an internal database to track rivals, including young startups performing unusually well, people familiar with the system say. The database stems from Facebook’s 2013 acquisition of a Tel Aviv-based startup, Onavo, which had built an app that secures users’ privacy by routing their traffic through private servers. The app gives Facebook an unusually detailed look at what users collectively do on their phones, these people say.
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august 2017 by shaunkoh
Inside Facebook’s Institutional Policy of Copying Competitors
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august 2017 by kohlmannj
The New Copycats: How Facebook Squashes Competition From Startups via Digg https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-new-copycats-how-facebook-squashes-competition-from-startups-1502293444?utm_source=ifttt Tiny Houseparty had a promising video-chat app. Then the social-media giant noticed and started developing one of its own.
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august 2017 by joeo10
Tech startups live by the rule that speed is paramount. Houseparty, creator of a hot video app, has an extra reason for urgency. Facebook Inc., a dominant force in Silicon Valley, is stalking the company, part of the social network’s aggressive mimicking of smaller rivals.
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august 2017 by mud
We will cede privacy within apps, but outside -- oh brother. (via )
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august 2017 by transposition
Facebook buys VPN to see what non-users are doing. Paging .
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august 2017 by aidan_walsh
Betsy Morris and Deepa Seetharaman, writing for The Wall Street Journal:

Facebook uses an internal database to track rivals, including young startups performing unusually well, people familiar with the system say. The database stems from Facebook’s 2013 acquisition of a Tel Aviv-based startup, Onavo, which had built an app that secures users’ privacy by routing their traffic through private servers. The app gives Facebook an unusually detailed look at what users collectively do on their phones, these people say.

The tool shaped Facebook’s decision to buy WhatsApp and informed its live-video strategy, they say. Facebook used Onavo to build its early-bird tool that tips it off to promising services and that helped Facebook home in on Houseparty.

So Facebook is using a VPN app that is supposed to protect users’ privacy to violate their privacy by analyzing which apps they use.

Also worth noting: in the iOS App Store, Onavo’s owner is still listed as “Onavo, Inc.”, not “Facebook”. I suspect a large number of Onavo users have no idea the app is owned by Facebook (I for one had never heard of it before this Journal story), and might think differently about entrusting their privacy to it if they knew.

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august 2017 by rufous
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Betsy Morris and Deepa Seetharaman, writing for The Wall Street Journal:

Facebook uses an internal database to track rivals, including young startups performing unusually well, people familiar with the system say. The database stems from Facebook’s 2013 acquisition of a Tel Aviv-based startup, Onavo, which had built an app that secures users’ privacy by routing their traffic through private servers. The app gives Facebook an unusually detailed look at what users collectively do on their phones, these people say.

The tool shaped Facebook’s decision to buy WhatsApp and informed its live-video strategy, they say. Facebook used Onavo to build its early-bird tool that tips it off to promising services and that helped Facebook home in on Houseparty.

So Facebook is using a VPN app that is supposed to protect users’ privacy to violate their privacy by analyzing which apps they use.

Also worth noting: in the iOS App Store, Onavo’s owner is still listed as “Onavo, Inc.”, not “Facebook”. I suspect a large number of Onavo users have no idea the app is owned by Facebook (I for one had never heard of it before this Journal story), and might think differently about entrusting their privacy to it if they knew.

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august 2017 by josephschmitt
When Facebook acquired Tel Aviv-based mobile data analytics company Onavo in 2013, there was lot of speculation about why. Was it principally about opening up an office in Israel? Speeding up its mobile apps? Measuring Facebook ad performance versus other ad platforms? It turns out Onavo has also been converted into an internal database used to track rivals, including young startups performing unusually well, WSJ’s Betsy Morris and Deepa Seetharaman report. In addition to shaping Facebook’s purchase of WhatsApp, Onavo alerted the company to Houseparty, the group video app popular among teens. Now Facebook—which has adopted the informal internal slogan, “don’t be too proud to copy” (oh hai, Snapchat)--plans to launch a group video app, with the working-name “Bonfire,” in the fall. Here’s the takeaway for marketers: If you’ve discovered a hot new app to connect with your audience, you can bet your bottom dollar Facebook is one step ahead and is figuring out whether to buy it or mimic it and ultimately squash it. [ED NOTE: Behind WSJ $$ paywall]
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august 2017 by webgeek
Wie Facebook und andere Giganten Ideen von kleinen Firmen kopieren
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august 2017 by grzbielok
- pretty all encompassing embrace of user data - I wonder what Apple thinks about it given the privacy positioning of the iPhone?
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august 2017 by renaissancechambara
Not surprised. Now, what? "The New Copycats: How Squashes From "
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august 2017 by cveira
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august 2017 by toph
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august 2017 by louderthan10
RT : Great story on Facebook’s xeroxing of others’ products. Onavo still an amazing acquisition.
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august 2017 by jace
Houseparty office in San Francisco this month. Photo: Jason Henry for The Wall Street Journal Tech startups live by the rule that speed is paramount.…
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august 2017 by matttrent
Tech startups live by the rule that speed is paramount. Houseparty, creator of a hot video app, has an extra reason for urgency. Facebook Inc., a dominant force…
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august 2017 by leftyotter
Tiny Houseparty has a promising video-chat app—the social-media giant has noticed

How Facebook uses "early bird" warning system to scout popular new tech, then buy or copy it; sources; take away from an all hands: "Don't be too proud to copy"
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august 2017 by jorgebarba
Silicon Valley is dominated by a few titans.. that’s fundamentally altering the nature of America’s startup culture:
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august 2017 by dr3wster
Tech startups live by the rule that speed is paramount. Houseparty, creator of a hot video app, has an extra reason for urgency. Facebook Inc., a dominant force…
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august 2017 by johnrclark
Sharp & important reporting on how tech giants undermine competition from start-ups via
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august 2017 by Be_Optimistic
Sharp & important reporting on how tech giants undermine competition from start-ups via
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august 2017 by sclopit
*great* WSJ piece on how Hooli tries to crush Pied Piper.... er, Facebook tries to crush Houseparty
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august 2017 by andriak
Lately, the titans also appear to be imitating smaller rivals more aggressively. In July, a week after the initial public offering of Blue Apron Holdings Inc., an Amazon subsidiary filed to trademark a meal-delivery kit with a tagline that echoed Blue Apron’s offering. Both Google and Facebook have taken aim at features on Snap. Inc.’s Snapchat platform. Amazon declined to comment. Google didn’t respond to requests for comment.
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august 2017 by aweissman
Telling this story makes zero sense from Houseparty’s perspective. Head scratcher.
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august 2017 by flyosity
Heckuva piece by on how FB squashes competition. 'That would scare the crap out of me.'
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august 2017 by girma
Heckuva piece by on how FB squashes competition. 'That would scare the crap out of me.'
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