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Remain should push for an election
But the last few days have seen two knife-edge votes in the Commons. If either had gone for the government, Brexit would be about to happen. It would be game over. We came seriously close. We can't keep on surviving like this.

We are completely powerless in these events. We have to watch as MPs behave in ways that don't always make sense. The whole issue is being decided on the tightest of margins, by politicians who are exhausted and under enormous emotional pressure.

An election is not an ideal way to sort this. A referendum is. But we have to work with what we've got. And at least an election allows people a chance to get involved, to do something, to work on a campaign of securing Remain seats where they can be won - to have agency. It's better than simply having to sit here and watch BBC Parliament night after night in a state of high anxiety.

That has a democratic dimension too. If this thing is happening, at least let the public get involved in it. At least lets have them give some form of input, no matter how imperfect, to validate what is happening.

So, in summary: God knows. What a mess. But probably, overall, an election is the right way to go.
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19 days ago by petej
How Brexit Will End | The New Yorker
Brexit is an uncanny political process because it is an inversion of the way that things were supposed to go. The world was becoming only more connected; money and people flowed. Europe was leading the experiment. And then a population said no. In 2016, Remainers tended to make economic arguments for staying in the E.U., while Leavers spoke about sovereignty and the health of the nation. In truth, it was a matter of instinct for both sides: were you prepared to go on sharing your agency with international forces of unimaginable scale, or did you believe that an old country could somehow reassert itself and claw out its own domain? The question was more philosophical than real. Being a member of the E.U. cost less than two per cent of Britain’s national budget. Most of us did not care. But, once the question was asked, it became fundamental, and the prelude to every future question. Choosing Brexit meant that we would diverge. We would diverge from Europe, and we would diverge from one another.
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19 days ago by petej
Boris Johnson's Top Team Is At War Over Whether To Push For An Election
Firstly, while Corbyn may have blocked the election last time, he has repeatedly committed to backing an election as soon as an extension to Article 50 is triggered, so they think going back on his word would be politically all but impossible for the Labour leader.

Second, while Johnson’s aides were confident they could find a majority to ram their Withdrawal Agreement Bill through Parliament in three days this week, they are less confident about their chances of doing so during an extension.

There are fears that, given time for extra scrutiny and to formulate a coherent strategy, opposition MPs will coalesce around an amendment to wreck the bill. They are particularly concerned that the Liberal Democrats and Scottish Nationalist Party will set aside their usual position of not voting for any Brexit measure to back a customs union amendment.

Third, internal polling has shown that an election now would be favourable to the Tories as, one official claims, the evidence suggests the public wants Brexit over with. Johnson can campaign saying he has got a deal and just needs a majority to “get Brexit done”.
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24 days ago by petej
Don't buy the hype: Boris Johnson's Brexit deal did not win approval | Jonathan Freedland | Opinion | The Guardian
What does it mean? First, don’t fall for the hype that says that tonight parliament approved Johnson’s deal. It did not. MPs simply voted for it to receive a second reading, some of them motivated by the desire not to endorse it but to amend it. As Labour’s Gloria de Piero confessed, she voted yes, “not because I support the deal but because I don’t”. That 30-vote majority will include MPs who wanted to propose UK membership of a customs union, others keen on conditioning the deal on public support in a confirmatory referendum. Screen out the Tory spin: those MPs should not be counted as backers of the deal.
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24 days ago by petej
Huge problems storing up for the govt this week: Plan is to bring MV back tomorrow. Think almost certain not to happen as Speaker will rule out of order as (i) same issue twice (ii) contradicts Letwin amendment which says Brexit related legislation must b
There is a common misconception that the govt pulled the vote on Saturday. They did not. They just didn't bring the motion as amended to a division. It went through on the nod. The House decided something. I.e. Letwin, that there is no deal until WAB passes. That is big.
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27 days ago by petej
Here’s why Boris Johnson’s plans have every chance of falling apart | Tom Kibasi | Opinion | The Guardian
In truth, Brexit is best understood as a prism through which an argument about the future of the country has been refracted. That’s why the argument over the level playing-field provisions in the political declaration is so important. For the ERG, the strategic purpose of Brexit has always been to deregulate at home in order to strike trade deals with the US and emerging markets, since most modern trade deals are less about tariffs and more about regulation, and their political goal is to realign Britain from the EU to the US.

Meanwhile, wavering Labour MPs have sought assurances on high standards, workers’ rights and environmental protections – which are all essential to keeping Britain a social democracy with a mixed economy. But both versions of the future cannot be true. This isn’t a matter of opinion but logic. Britain cannot be Sweden and Singapore at the same time. It can’t be in the US regulatory sphere and the EU sphere simultaneously.
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29 days ago by petej
Boris Johnson 'on brink of Brexit deal' after border concessions | Politics | The Guardian
Under the deal being negotiated, Northern Ireland would not be part of the EU’s customs territory, but the bloc’s full customs code would have to be enforced in the Irish Sea. “Northern Ireland would de jure be in the UK’s customs territory but de facto in the European Union’s,” an EU source said.
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4 weeks ago by petej
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