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A Trump voter hurt by the shutdown’s incredibly revealing quote - Vox
"“I voted for him, and he’s the one who’s doing this,” Minton told Mazzei. “I thought he was going to do good things. He’s not hurting the people he needs to be hurting.”

He’s not hurting the people he needs to be hurting.

Think about that line for a second. Roll it over in your head. In essence, Minton is declaring that one aim of the Trump administration is to hurt people — the right people. Making America great again, in her mind, involves inflicting pain.

This is not an accident. Trump’s political victory and continuing appeal depend on a brand of politics that marginalizes and targets groups disliked by his supporters. Trump supporters don’t so much love the Republican party as they hate Democrats, a phenomenon political scientists call “negative partisanship.” They like Trump not because he sells them on the GOP, but because they believe he’ll stick it to the Democrats harder than anyone else."
people-donald-trump  psychology  psychology-beliefs-or-changing-beliefs  cults 
11 weeks ago by daguti
Trump says he told House GOP to ‘play along’ on Mueller report vote - POLITICO
Did you hear the one about the President with such a fragile ego that when the House voted 420-0, a perfectly unheard of unanimous vote, across party lines to have the full Mueller report released to the public, he then announces to the public that he told House Republicans to vote that way? I hope this man dies a long, slow, extremely painful death.
people-donald-trump  news  2019 
11 weeks ago by daguti
Trump Treats Immigrant Crime Differently
When an undocumented person commits a murder, Trump talks about it incessantly. When, in 2017, a white guy like Stephen Paddock kills 58 people in Las Vegas and wounds 851, Trump has very little to say. See Less
people-donald-trump  hypocrisy  race-racism  race 
march 2019 by daguti
Escaping the trump cult: The cultists want the leader to be omnipotent, to be able to break all the rules, because you identify with them to such an extent that their increase in power is an increase of your own power. You believe that that fealty to the
Great comments:

"People say Trump is suffering dementia because of how he talks. I disagree. How he talks is deliberate, and it makes no sense to anyone not in his circle.

The groups in his circle have been mimicking it. Someone posted Conservapedia here recently, an effort to make a Wikipedia of 'alternative facts'.

Now consider this. His supporters are becoming acclimatised to people around them speaking like this. When someone presents a counter argument, the information contained inside it is rejected before even being heard, because it's not presented in a way they are used to receiving information before.

Using special words, and taglines only insiders know is normal in cults and groups. its normal in marketing too. What they are doing is taking this a step further and actually changing the way people talk, to insulate them from outside views. Anyone who talks different is not one of them and is not to be trusted.

I'm very curious what the way back is for people caught up in this when it's over. I imagine it's going to be a long, and painful path."


""Trumpism" is not a thing. The seeds of the Trump Presidency have been planted since the Southern Strategy. The overwhelming majority of voters don't give a shit about global engagement or free trade or any of that beltway bullshit. The only significant difference between Ronald Reagan and Donald Trump is that Trump is more open about what he and his party believe in. Donald Trump is polling at 90% approval among Republicans. The lowest he's ever polled among Republicans since taking office was 77%. He has the second-highest own-party approval rating ever, with the highest going to George W. Bush in the immediate aftermath of 9/11. You need to give up on this notion that the "Never Trump Republican" like Max Boot or whoever the fuck is anything but an extremely marginal part of the electorate who will probably still end up voting for him in 2020. Donald Trump is not an anomaly. He's not an outlier. He is everything the Republican base stands for. He is the perfect Republican."


"I’m trying to take the Koch’s and their fellow billionaires’ perspective here. Is it easier to manage Trump or to take control of the party, again?

They're going to try for the former and if it fails they'll take their money to the Democrats and work on reshaping that party in their image.

The centrist wing of the party - the Bloomberg, Clinton, et al wing - will be more than happy to oblige them. Look at how they're already attacking the modest reform-minded wing of their party - the Sanders/AOC/Omar wing.

Look at how all these career GOP ghouls like Max Boot, Paul Ryan, James Comey, etc. are suddenly very interested in offering "advice" to the party they've spent their career trying to destroy, and how that "advice" boils down to "you should kick out the left wing of your party and move right."

Howard Schultz is saying he'll run as an independent, but only if someone like Bernie Sanders wins the Democratic nomination. Things like that are the trial balloons for the old neocon right shifting focus to moving the Democrats rightward."


It's really as simple as: He says the things they like, and he pisses off the people they don't like. He makes the liberals mad, and that makes them very happy.

They want the wall. That's why they chanted it at all those rallies.

They want the tax cuts. Contrary to popular belief, the largest portion of the Trump electoral coalition is not the "poor, white working class," it's the petit-bourgeois, the vaunted "small business owner." They benefit from those tax cuts. (link: https://www.thenation.com/article/trumpism-its-coming-from-the-suburbs/)

They want the nationalism. White, preferably, but they'll tolerate a vague "American" nationalism"for now. They know what they mean.

They want someone who will "put those SJWs in their place." If Trump unleashed the National Guard on college campus protests like they did at Kent State, his supporters would be elated.

They want the Islamophobia. They're very mad the courts struck down the Muslim ban. They want Trump to enforce it anyway.

Most of all, they want someone who will say all of these things openly, without having to couch it in more respectable-sounding terms.

A lot of that has to do with a cult of personality, sure. But a lot of it has to do with the Trump agenda being what the Republican base has wanted from their party for decades. His rise was only impossible to predict if you've never listened to an hour of right-wing talk radio in the past 30 years. He is the answer to those people's prayers.


And finally, one that is less-than-satisfying, but also correct:

"The last line of the interview:

"The only way to break the back of Trumpism, this yearning for fascism -- or a form of Christian fascism -- is to reintegrate these people back into the society by fixing the country's broken economy."

I know it's fun to sit around the virtual campfire and criticize Trump, his administration, the republican party, Christians, and the people who voted Trump in. There isn't much point in trying to debate that here. That's what late night is for.

This last line of the interview is in my opinion the most valuable piece of it. If you want Trump and "leaders" like him to go away (or more accurately be held at bay), you will have to help reintegrate the lost and disillusioned people that currently support him and those like him. I think there's more to it than economic reasons, but it's a good place to start.

The other choice is to let them slide further into their beliefs, dig your own heels in and wait for an eventual civil war (exaggerated, but you see my point) all while sipping on some moral superiority as if that will fix anything."


people-donald-trump  cults  psychology  groups  groups-why-i-dont-join 
march 2019 by daguti
Donald J. Trump on Twitter: "Airplanes are becoming far too complex to fly. Pilots are no longer needed, but rather computer scientists from MIT. I see it all the time in many products. Always seeking to go one unnecessary step further, when often old and
Planes crashing and a sitting President of the United States tweets this trash.

1 of 2:

2 of 2:

Read the explanation from this guy (4 tweets in total)

See the last tweet by that guy doing the explanation:

"China, Indonesia, Ethiopian Airlines, and many other countries have already grounded their entire fleet of Boeing 737 Max 8s because two brand new airplanes crashed within 6 months. But Trump’s FAA said it’s safe to fly on these airplanes because money is important than people."
people-donald-trump  news  2019 
march 2019 by daguti
Michael Cohen reportedly gives Congress documents showing Trump's lawyers edited his false statement : politics
There are no words. This asshat president and his asshat party are the most corrupt people in the world - and yet, uneducated White America stays loyal...
politics-philosophies-republicans  crime  people-donald-trump 
march 2019 by daguti
Police in Norway have contacted the FBI as part of an investigation into a fake nomination for Trump to win this year's Nobel Peace Prize. : worldnews
Hahahaha, Literally everything involving this asshole is crime.

I can hear Xhibit now: I hear you like crime with your crime. So I put some crime in your crime and added crime crime crime.
people-donald-trump  new-features  2019  crime  crime-fraud 
march 2019 by daguti
Trump apparently not familiar with his administration's push for global decriminalization of homosexuality : worldnews
Is there any wonder people think he's senile? And Trump Jr pushing for this policy? That's a shock.
people-donald-trump  news  2019 
february 2019 by daguti
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