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YouTube’s product chief on online radicalization and algorithmic rabbit holes • The New York Times
Kevin Roose talks to Neal Mohan:
<p><strong>KR: I hear a lot about the “rabbit hole” effect, where you start watching one video and you get nudged with recommendations toward a slightly more sort of extreme video, and so on, and all of a sudden you’re watching something really extreme. Is that a real phenomenon?</strong>

NM: Yeah, so I’ve heard this before, and I think that there are some myths that go into that description that I think it would be useful for me to debunk.

The first is this notion that it’s somehow in our interests for the recommendations to shift people in this direction because it boosts watch time or what have you. I can say categorically that’s not the way that our recommendation systems are designed. Watch time is one signal that they use, but they use a number of other engagement and satisfaction signals from the user. It is not the case that “extreme” content drives a higher version of engagement or watch time than content of other types.

I can also say that it’s not in our business interest to promote any of this sort of content. It’s not something that has a disproportionate effect in terms of watch time. Just as importantly, the watch time that it does generate doesn’t monetize, because advertisers many times don’t want to be associated with this sort of content.

And so the idea that it has anything to do with our business interests, I think it’s just purely a myth.

<strong>KR: So, why do people talk about this rabbit hole effect — you know, I went to watch one video about President Trump and now I’m just getting a stream of recommendations of increasingly more partisan content. Why do you think there’s this perception that this is what happens on YouTube?</strong>

This is one of the things that we looked at closely as we were developing the technology that went into that recommendation change that I described to you from a few weeks back.

We really looked at this to see what was happening on those “watch next” panels, in terms of the videos that were being recommended. And the first thing that I should say is that when we make recommendations after a video has been consumed, we don’t take into account any notion of whether that’s less or more extreme.</p>

Well, duh. Mohan dances around this, unconvincingly. It's clearly on his radar, but clearly also he doesn't know how to solve it (yet?), and also doesn't want to admit it.
youtube  radicalisation  socialwarming 
12 weeks ago by charlesarthur
This a call to arms? Sounds like a radical thing to say, extremist. It's not as if UK politics is f…
radicalisation  from twitter
12 weeks ago by kexrex
Newspapers help to radicalise far right, says UK anti-terror chief • The Guardian
Jim Waterson:
<p>Britain’s counter-terrorism chief has said far-right terrorists are being radicalised by mainstream newspaper coverage, while also criticising the hypocrisy of outlets such as Mail Online, which uploaded the “manifesto” of the gunman in the Christchurch terror attack.

Neil Basu, one of Britain’s top police officers, said it was ironic that while newspapers have repeatedly criticised the likes of Facebook and Google for hosting extremist content, sites including the Sun and the Mirror rushed to upload clips of footage filmed by the gunman as he attacked two mosques in New Zealand.

“The same media companies who have lambasted social media platforms for not acting fast enough to remove extremist content are simultaneously publishing uncensored Daesh [Islamic State] propaganda on their websites, or make the rambling ‘manifestos’ of crazed killers available for download,” Basu said in an open letter to the media on how to report terrorism.

He appeared to be singling out Mail Online, which uploaded the New Zealand’s terrorist’s 74-page “manifesto” to its website and made the document, which included an explanation of his far-right ideology, available for users to download from one of the world’s biggest news outlets.</p>

Always worth recalling that radicalisation and polarisation have existed since long before online social networks.
media  polarisation  radicalisation  terror 
march 2019 by charlesarthur
Radicalizing at the Trump rally. Undercurrents of radicalized white america.
radicalization  radicalisation  from twitter
february 2019 by kexrex
An ex-YouTube whistleblower on their recommendation engine | Hacker News
It is very easy to down-play this by saying this is logical and just addiction peddling, but I'd say it is closer to psychological abuse of people in their most private and vulnerable moments. All this _just_ to make money from advertisement. The algorithms might not have started out this way, but there has been enough criticism on what is happening for YouTube to finally do something about it, yet they haven't. This means it is intentional.
youtube  addiction  algorithm  AI  radicalisation 
february 2019 by fjordaan

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